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Derek Jeter, Tony Gwynn, and Omar Vizquel



By Mike Silva ~ April 27th, 2011. Filed under: Mike Silva, New York Yankees.

Two hits last night raised Derek Jeter‘s batting average to .259, but the fact that a majority have been of the swinging bunt variety doesn’t convince me he is on the path to offensive health. You have to start thinking of different scenarios with Jeter, especially if he continues to play at a below league average level. What do the Yankees do with a Hall of Famer making over $15 million dollars the next couple of years? Is there any recent historical precedent?

Players like George Brett, Robin Yount, Rod Carew, and even Cal Ripken remained starters until they left the game. Wade Boggs also played a significant amount, but he was on a quest for 3,000 hits, and played the dual role of drawing card for an expansion team in Tampa. None were terrible towards the end, but they certainly were not as productive as their prime. They also weren’t playing a critical defensive position like shortstop.

Other great players like Eddie Murray, Dave Winfield, Mike Schmidt, and Jim Rice fell off the map pretty quickly. Schmidt and Rice decided to walk away from the game with Schmidt doing so midseason in 1989. Murray and Winfield hung on a couple of years at a severe compromised rate playing until their early forties. Of course, Rickey Henderson didn’t accept his decline and went to independent baseball route to prove everyone wrong.

So what will Jeter’s next four years look like? He’s not going to need the length of the contract to get his 3,000th hit as that should happen sometime this season. If he continues to produce a below league average bat, coupled with declining range and defense, how can you justify his presence in the lineup? Ripken was a third basemen by the end of his career. Winfield spent a good deal of his time as a DH, and even played a little first base. It’s hard to see where Jeter would fit into a Yankees lineup if not at shortstop. His offense indicates he is more than likely to be a bench player than a regular. What the Yankees could hope for is a similar ride into the sunset that San Diego had with Tony Gwynn, and what you see with Omar Vizquel in Chicago.

On August 6th, 1999 Gwynn collected his 3,000th hit. He would play another two seasons for the Padres, but mainly as a substitute and pinch hitter off the bench his final year. Although he couldn’t handle the everyday rigors of the game at age 40, Gwynn was a useful pinch hitter in 2001 hitting .324 in 112 plate appearances. To the very end he could hit.

Despite that, it’s hard to imagine that Gwynn would have been as productive in a larger sample. Playing the field every day, travel, and the general breaking down of a 40 year old body most certainly would have eaten into that production. Despite being the face of the Padres franchise for 19 seasons, he knew it was time to step aside and take a diminished role.

Omar Vizquel has been used as a veteran leader and mentor for the Giants, Texas, and White Sox. Of course, Vizquel can still play the field at a high level to be useful at the age of 43. The point is Jeter can play a similar role with the Yankees.

Perhaps a diminished role for Jeter will be just what he needs. He can still get 300 at bats, and the Yankees could start to plug in Eduardo Nunez. Use Jeter as the “bridge” to the next Yankees shortstop. Of course, this is provided they don’t go after Jose Reyes this offseason. That would change everything, and complicate an already difficult situation.

The biggest question is will Jeter do this willingly when it becomes apparent he can’t play every day? It certainly won’t happen before his 3,000th hit. There is a lot of baseball left this year for Jeter to prove to everyone he can still be a productive everyday shortstop. It’s only fair to note that this slump is not relegated to 2011, but actually started during the second half of last year when he hit .265 with only two homers. It’s apparent that Jeter is prideful, stubborn, and sensitive. Not an easy personality for Joe Girardi to handle.

Jeter is making a lot more than Vizquel or Gwynn, and he’s not at the point of no return like Murray, Winfield, or Schmidt. He is, however, at a point where the process makes you believe this is a scenario that is inevitable. Perhaps the only precedent is figuring out if the Yankees can have some sort of combination of what you see with Vizquel, and what Tony Gwynn did his final year. That might be the best case scenario for the rest of Jeter’s contract.

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4 Responses to Derek Jeter, Tony Gwynn, and Omar Vizquel

  1. Michael Maggi

    Mike,

    I think the options you have listed for Jeter are accurate, but the the real wild card will be Jeter’s attitude and willingness to do what’s best for the team. It’s really easy to be a team player when you hold the Captain title and perform at a high level. It’s an entirely different ballgame, pun intended, when your level of play has reduced you to a below-average performer. My gut feeling tells me, unless someone close to Derek brings him down to reality, he is going to be very difficult to deal with. I’m not entirely sure Girardi, Levine, and the Steinbrenners will be tough with him. I know Cashman would but not the others. I’m very concerned they will continue to appease him and essentially let him call the shots for the duration of this ugly contract.

  2. Jake Marcum

    I think the options laid out are fair & smart for the Yankees going forward, but like Michael, I fear Jeter will make things difficult. We saw a glimpse of this years ago when he was unwilling to move from SS for A-Rod, and a bit more with his stubbornnes regarding the contract negotiations this past winter. Derek seems like a stubborn dude with an ego to match. After he gets his 3,000th hit he should promptly be batting 7th or 8th.

  3. David

    Many questions without good answers.
    Good enough defensively at shortstop for a championship team? No.
    Any logical position to move him to? No.
    Still an impact hitter? No.
    Ridiculous contract, done for non-baseball reasons? Yes.

  4. joseph

    i wouldn’t say murray declined precipitously. i think he played well until that last year with the angels.
    but you are right, after 3000, what is jeter gonna do, or the Yanks for that matter.
    Tex at first.
    Outfield; old dog-new tricks.
    DH, too proud.
    I think he might walk away if he hits below .250, or he’ll become the highest paid bench player of all time.

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