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Sox Almost Went for the Ultimate “Win Now”



By Mike Silva ~ September 13th, 2009. Filed under: Mike Silva.

Although Theo Epstein denied this report, it’s interesting to wonder about how far the Sox were willing to go in order to acquire Roy Halladay. Earlier today Bob Elliott of the Toronto Sun that may have been a 6-for-1 offer for Roy Halladay that included Clay Buchholz, Justin Masterson, Daniel Bard, Michael Bowden, Felix Doubront, and Nick Hagadone.

A couple of thoughts on this situation. First, I doubt all six of these pitchers were offered by Boston.If it were true there would be no reason for Halladay to still be in a Toronto uniform. Also,  J.P. Ricciardi should be fired immediately if this is found to be true. That is the type of “Herschel Walker trade” Toronto needs to rebuild. Second, I suspect a combination of 2 to 3 of these individuals were part of a Halladay package.

Why is this important? Because Halladay would have locked down a title for whomever acquired him. Remember when we talked about him being a luxury for the Yankees? I think we all agree the Bombers playoffs chances would look a heck of a lot better with Halladay/Sabathia as a one-two punch.

You also have to think Toronto and Boston could open up the dialogue in the offseason again. A package of Buchholtz, Bowden, and a hitting prospect should be enticing to Ricciardi. Halladay and Beckett is probably even better than Sabathia/Halladay.

I believe the Yankees will kick themselves for not offering Chamberlain to Toronto for Halladay. They could be focused on the greatest pitching tandem in history while the Jays worry about getting Joba to the fourth inning. Classic case of holding on to a stock too long.

Oh, and for the Halladay haters, after struggling the first few starts after the deadline Halladay has back to back complete games in September with an ERA of 2.00. That’s a difference maker.

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3 Responses to Sox Almost Went for the Ultimate “Win Now”

  1. James K.

    Yeah that Joba Chamberlain – what a bust! 23 years old and not winning Cy Youngs yet? Sell him like an Enron stock NOW! I mean Look at what Roy Halladay was doing at age 23 in 2000, he was a regular Roger Clemens:

    67.2 IP, 10.64 ERA, 2.20 WHIP

    I must say Mike, I do get a chuckle about the daily (sometimes twice daily) Joba trolling.

  2. ?

    First time posting and here are a couple of thoughts in response to this post:

    1) I really doubt an offer like this was made. Theo has never made any offers of this kind during his tenure in Boston. I doubt he would’ve done in this case.

    2) A Sabathia/Halladay 1-2 is better than a Halladay/Beckett 1-2. Go to baseball-reference.com and compare Sabathia’s career numbers to Beckett’s. Not to mention, Sabathia has been extremely durable throughout his career whereas Beckett seems to find himself on the DL on an annual basis (with this year being the exception).

    3) I’ve been to your site a couple of times and the one consistent theme is how Joba Chamberlain is a complete bust. Now, you may think Joba may turn out to be a bust, which is fine because that is your opinion, but this constant bashing of Chamberlain is kind of childlish. It seems that almost every post you make involves a Chamberlain bash. A little wierd if you ask me.

    4) I certainly do not kill the yankees for holding on to Chamberlain. Chamberlain has certainly shown periods of brillance/dominance, it’s just a matter of him trying to get consistent. I remember reading Keith Law and other scouts say that Chamberlain has better pure stuff than David Price. Keep this fact in mind, Joba spent only one season in the minors and pitched less than 100 innings (88.1 to be exact).

    I’m sure the yankees are frustrated that Chamberlain has struggled throughout periods of this year, but to give up on him based on one year could be a decision that they regret in the foreseeable future, even if it involves a trade for Halladay.

  3. Rick

    Look at playoffs Beckett is much better than the choker Sabathia. Red Sox fortunately did nit make trade as they would not have acquired V-Mart and he has been crucila to their offense and Buchholtz has been great.

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